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way up in the peruvian andes. word of the day, no palter when writing to the factor. ms. megyn is next. please remember the spin stops here. we are looking out for you. new tonight, fresh accusations the white house is not being honest about how much or how little president obama has been directly involved in the launch of obama care. welcome to "the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly. reporting from los angeles tonight. in less than 48 hours health & human services secretary kathleen sebelius will be back in front of congress. she's expected to be grilled on a new report that she didn't have a single one on one meeting with president obama in the three of and a half years leading up to the roll-out of obama care. how can that be? the white house slamming the report saying the president and secretary sebelius have had countless meetings. but so far refusing to provide
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any dates, times, or topics. why is that? marc is a fellow at the american enterprise institute and former speech writer for george w. bush. do you buy it -- countless? >> maybe. they have to put out the information. jay carney was in the press briefing the other day. he said lots of meetings happened that aren't on the record. i had two yesterday. that's not true. every meeting the president has is recordied. there is something called the white house diary. there is a room called the outer oval where the secretaries and personal aides are. every visitor who comes through the white house and meets with the president goes through the outer oval. staff record everyone who walks into the oval office, how long they spent there, who was there, what was discussed. they record every phone call, who he talked to and for how long. they record his bathroom breaks. they send the information -- >> really? >> -- to the national archives.
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it's creepy, but they do it. they write in, vacating. that's in the record. >> they do not. >> they do. that's the word we use to joke about it. >> maybe the president was right about this being the most transparent administration ever. so there is a log. the outer oval log would tell us who visited with the president and when. >> exactly. >> is that used? >> they take the log and send it to a career employee called the white house diaress who keep as meticulous record for future generations. if they are sending a record of the bathroom breaks to the national archives they are sending how many times met with kathleen sebelius. it's not put out like the press record is. when jay carney says i don't
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have the numbers for how many times he met, he has to walk 20 paces and ask. how many time thes did kathleen sebelius meet with the president? they can plug it into the computer and say so in ten seconds. >> what's the reason not to do that? >> the only reason is if it was an embarrassing number. i don't know. they have to do it. the fact is the record exists. if he had dozens of one on one meetings with her in the oval office or anywhere there is a record of it in the white house. eventually at the national archives. all they have to do is look into it. >> ms. sebelius had a statement tonight saying she's been to the white house countless times since becoming secretary. she's frequently at the white house for meetings relating to obama care including dozens with the president in the last year alone. she met with him last thursday. but they don't get more specific. what do you think is going on here? they tried to tamp down the
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story. some other person on capitol hill said, look, i will personally attest that i have been in several meetings with ms. sebelius and the president. so we don't know who is telling the truth and who's not. why wouldn't they just say, all right, we checked the outer oval logs. she's been there 60 times. your theory is she hasn't been there enough and it speakses to a narrative of president obama being disengaged or kathleen sebelius not doing herb job? >> could be either. if the president of the united states met with kathleen sebelius dozens of times leading up to the roll out of obama care why did he say it would work like amazon a couple of days before? if he met with her she wasn't telling the truth. if he wasn't, she eh's disengaged. this shows that there are 277 meetings recorded in the public schedule by the department of energy, secretary of interior, the secretary of education.
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the attorney general. but she's not on there. so why are her meetings not on the public record. if there are mysterious meetings that took place, why don't they tell us. look in the outer oval logs and report it to the american people. if it's a good story for them, the story is over. >> yeah. now that it's a deal you would think they would check their reference materials and let us know. it's simple math. >> exactly. >> thank you. >> thank you, megyn. new reports tonight about another possible consequence of the health care over haul. while media outlets continue to dig into the issue of losing your plan or your doctor you can see the cover on the cincinnati enquirer, you may also lose your prescription drug coverage. dr. scott gotl irgs eb is a senior policy adviser to the centers for medicare and medicaid services. good to see you. why is this a concern about
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possibly seeing a sharp uptick in the costs under your prescription drug coverage? >> two issues. one is the co-pays are high. on average it's 40% you have to pay on oh branded drugs compared to 25% in the private sector. the big issue is the list of drugs aren't long. if the drugs aren't covered you're on your own. you have to pay for it out of pocket. the money you spend on drugs doesn't count against your out of pocket limits or against your deductible. this could cost patients with special conditions, patients who need special drugs money. literally tens of thousands of dollars a year. >> i know you referenced a drug that's commonly used to treat multiple sclerosis. c orks prko copaxon? >> correct. a lot of drugs for arthritis, multiple sclerosis weren't in the formformula. so patients had to pay for them
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out of pocket. this is different from commercial insurance f. a drug isn't ton formula there will be coinsurance meaning you are responsible for some of the costs but the plan picks up some as well and it counts against your deduct able and out of pocket limits. in this case the sky is the limit on how much it can cost you. there is so much variability in the plans patients have to be very careful. in some not a lot of drugs are covered. there is a lot of variability. not a lot of information. >> we talked last week about how patients will be finding their doctors aren't covered by obama care and now you are saying many of the prescription drugs they were taking won't be covered. in both instances we talked about how if you go outside the network, try to get the doctor anyway, get the prescription drugs anyway, you won't get a reimbursement along the lines of what you are used to. it sounds like the hmo system we
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used to use in this country more frequently than we do today. >> that's what it is. it's the old hmo. you you can't buy up your benefit. if you buy the platinum or gold plan in many states it is the same network. all you do is get a lower copay and deductible. so you're paying a higher premium, you're prepaying copayments but aren't getting a different doctor network. the idea that you could spend more money and get a better benefit, you can't. in some states you can. but in a lot of oh states you can't. the plans are exactly the same. >> that's interesting. i think you are speaking to the suggestion on fox news sunday that if you like your doctor you can keep him as long as you pay more. you say that's not trueeither. even paying more won't get you the doctor. the plan won't allow it. >> you can't buy a better network in most cases.
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go online and look at the plans. the doctor network for the bronze plan is the same one used for the platinum plan. i have looked at it. you can go out of pocket if the doctor isn't in your network. >> right. you can always do that. >> there won't be coinsurance and it won't count against your deductible. so it's tough. >> the hits just keep on coming. thank you, sir. >> thanks a lot. >> wow. we'll have more with that a little bit later. the new claim if you like your doctor you can keep him if you are willing to pay more. it's like another asterisk not offered on the promises made. coming up, when jpmorgan agreed pay the government a $13 billion settlement you may have thought the taxpayers would get the cash. wait until you see where the billions are going instead. and a "the kelly file" follow up on the immigration issue and controversial hires
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from the obama administration. what's happening at the homeland security tonight. plus an espn reporter may have asked a star football reporter one too many questions about his recent rape investigation. charges weren't brought but the controversy continues. his reaction ahead.
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we are tracking fallout from the justice department's record $13 billion settlement with with
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jpmorgan chase. get this. the doj accused the bank of misleading investors in the run-up to the 2008 financial crisis. but now we are hearing that investors aren't the only ones who are potentially getting paid in this deal. wait until you hear who will be getting your money. trace gallagher with the "the kelly file" investigation. i say your money because it could have been to people injuried but they won't be the only ones getting the dough. >> the banks took these toxic, subprime mortgages and bundled them and sold them to investors. now that jpmorgan has admitted it duped borrowers and investors and agreed to pay the $$13 billion settlement, $9 billion pays off the feds and the states that filed civil lawsuits. there's 4 billion to consumer relief which means forgiving some loans all together and
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modifying the loans of some lowing income borrowers. an independent monitor will oversee how the money is spent. if you look, in four years, read deeper into the plan. you will find the remainder if the money isn't all spent will go to neighborworks of america, a liberal group that provides affordable housing and helps fund a network of community organizers. in 2011 alone neighborworks gave ney to 115 organizations. some of them operate in the same vein as acorn. of course busted in the voter fraud scandal a few years ago. we contacted neighborworks and they said they had no idea they would get extra money, potentially billions from the settlement. we contacted the department of justice. they told us to contact the department of housing and urban development. so far hud has not responded -- yet.
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megyn? >> all right. thank you. joining us with more. judge andrew napolitano. so put it in plain english. what did eric holder's doj do here? >> eric holder's doj sued jpmorgan chase because jpmorgan chase bought a corrupt mortgage company called countrywide which sold mortgages to investors who lost money because they didn't reveal the extent of what they were selling. jpmorgan chase says, we give up, attorney general holder. how much money do you want from us? we have to get on with our lives. mr. attorney general, what are you going to do with the $13 billion, give it to the people that countrytwide took money from? oh, no. we'll give it to the u.s. treasury, treasury of the states, some consumer lending organizations so they can make
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loans to low income people. and we'll give it to political organizations. jpmorgan chase says, we don't care. just get off our backs. this is an utter perversion of justice for the federal government to extort billions of dollars from the second largest bank in the united states and give it away to the president's political friends and favorite political causes. >> because you heard trace talk about this group neighborworks america which is going to take the money and potentially provide housing counseling foreclosure prevention, similar things. then they say that jpmorgan is also obligated to donate to certain groups and offer home loans to low and moderate income borrowers in areas hit hard by subprime foreclosures. are they basically trying to punish jpmorgan, making it do what it did in the first place
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that got us into this mess? >> yes. in the first place, countrywide mortgage, the bank jpmorgan bought. jpmorgan didn't make the loans. jamie diamond didn't supervise the loans. a guy named angelo mozillo did when he was running countrywide. >> thanks a lot. i was one of your clients. >> they basically want jpmorgan chase to do through the federal government with the money jpmorgan chase is giving in order to get the government off its bank what countrywide did ten years ago. it is going to both sides of the aisle. it sounds like it will be funneled to the extent there is extra. so to his pet projects. that's a group along the same vein as acorn, a network of left-wing community organizers. is that a fair characterization
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of where the money is going? >> it is fair. i will make it stronger. it's unlawful. that's not what you pay a settlement for. and what jpmorgan chase said. and some of it to causes like this. >> good to see you. >> all the best tonight. >> thank you, sir. a cable news host suggest it is the word obama care is synonymous with one of the ugliest racial slurs out there. we'll take a look at her logic ahead. plus, fallout from the story we broke friday on the immigration issue and controversial hires from the obama administration. are they stacking the deck at the department of homeland security? we'll talk about it on "the kelly file" follow up next.
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>> this administration knows that personnel is policy and they are changing the personnel to change the policy.
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all of the demonstrated organizations with hostility toward immigration law are now the source of dozens of new lawyers inside the department of homeland security. this administration knows that personnel is policy. if you don't want immigration enforced hire lawyers who don't like immigration laws. spp that was a former doj attorney friday night with an exclusive report on new attorneys hired to manage immigration litigation for the obama administration.
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he is revealing nearly all of the new lawyers hail from pro amnesty groups -- that's his term -- or pro immigration groups. joining me tonight, julian epstein. he's a ceo of lng incorporated. good to see you. basically they are stacking the deck in a way immigration policy won't be enforced and whatever the president decides to do by fiat won't be vigorously challenged in the administration because everyone will be like-minded since he's now added scores of new attorneys from groups to the significant left on illegal immigration. >> thanks for having me on. as a matter of record the obama administration has been criticized for the record number of deportations that have gone on under president obama's watch. they have been criticized from the left.
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as for christian adams's allegations it is against the law to use ideological or political affiliation to hire civil service employees. the evidence he proposes is thin. first of all, he cherry picks a small number of the hires. we don't have -- >> he said it's 40 attorneys. >> but we don't know -- in order to present the investigation you have to be more systematic to present 40. there are many more than 40 attorneys at i.c.e. >> he said they were granted permission to have 14 new positions. they begged for more and suddenly, he said, they were given permission to hire 40-plus new attorneys. he said virtually all of the new ones have activist backgrounds. that's his charge. go ahead.
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>> we don't have the full picture in terms of hiring and to use his criteria of left-leaning affiliation. secondly the criteria he uses to suggest political or ideological affiliation is sloppy. one of the criteria, for example, is one of the recent attorneys was a member of an immigration clinic at harvard law school. another criteria was that an attorney worked for the lutheran church at one point in her career. another criteria christian adams uses is an attorney worked for the constitution society at the university of michigan. these are kind of silly bases on which to allege that someone has political or ideological bias. >> something you wouldn't quarrel with. he talks about jennifer leigh
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who was anned advocate for in-state tuition at public universities, helped advise people what to do in the event of a raid. we have the flyer. >> so there is -- >> he said complaining about efforts to fingerprint captured illegal immigrants. here is my question for you. >> i want to respond to the point. >> i want to ask you this. we have seen -- i know you are not supposed to hire based on ideology at the doj. we have seen it done by both sides. do you deny that this is an example of that or is it more, look, both sides do it. live with it. >> well, i don't think there is evidence of that. if there is stronger evidence than what christian adams has suggested then it's worth looking into. you have to keep in mind something about immigration. if you were working outside the government on immigration, the likelihood is that you were working on behalf of immigrants
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who have claims before immigration naturalzation service. backgrounds.ing unnatural about that's point one. point two is christian adams in the allegations doesn't allege that they are somehow unqualified. that these aren't qualified attorneys. >> no, he doesn't. he says they are stack thing the deck. he is positing that jennifer leave wonlee won't be the most aggressive attorney in prosecuting laws when it comes to i wimmigration >> it's weak because of somebody's background working for a legal clinic in law school that they will not enforce laws. there are many chex on attorneys in terms of how they enforce the law. >> interesting to hear you say that. christian adams was torn down by many on the left because he was a doj whistleblower based on
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affiliations in his past that were pretty generic. they ripped on him as a conservative activist. he said, i have been rewarded and given bonuses and so on at the doj. anyway, not by you, i should point out. great to see you. we'll have you back again. it's over between us. it's a limited time. coming up, remember how president obama said you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor? one of the obama care architects has added a big new if. another asterisk not on the original promise. plus, why are some people complaining that christmas cards are self-serving, impersonal and not as nice as they used to be? ♪ we wish you a merry christmas ♪ ♪ we wish you a merry christmas ♪
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if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. if you like your doctor or health care provider, you can keep them. if you have health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. nobody is talking about taking that away from you. >> president's often repeated promise. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period. now dr. ezekiel emmanuel, one of the main architects of obama care is adding a new and important caveat to that promise. watch. >> the president never said you were going to have unlimited choice of any doctor in the country. >> let me -- >> wait. he asked a question. if you like your doctor, can you keep your doctodoctor. >> he didn't say unlimited choice. >> did he say if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
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>> yes. if you want to pay more for an insurance company that covers your doctor, you can do that. >> well. joe trippi is a former campaign manager for howard done dna and a fox news contributor. joe, here we go again. it's not period. it's asterisk. this isn't something people are like, oh, doctor, who cares? they care. their doctor, their children's doctor. the number of times we have seen explicit and material representations upon which the american public relied in supporting the law collapsed after the fact is really becoming disturbing. am i wrong? >> no. i don't think you are wrong. look, i don't think they benefit by continuing to say things like this. the fact is the president did say you get to keep your doctor. we know it's not going to happen for some people. perhaps four, five million.
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i don't know what the number is. we know those are facts. look, health care costs go up every year. they have for decades. they are going to go up again. i doubt it will work for anybody that you say you get to keep your doctor if you pay more for it. even if that's the policy that will happen. now people will blame obama for that. i don't see what the argument, how the argument help it is case. what they need to do, what the president needs to do, what the administration needs to do is to make sure things work, that they build credibility not by trying to if, and and do caveats to the period statement, but just move on and make it work as best they can and build up credibility. >> here is the problem. let me tell you what the problem is having spoken with both sides now on obama care virtually every night since we launched the show. they can't change this. the network of providers is going to be what it's going to
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be. they have to lower the cost of health care overall and one of the ways they are doing it is by limiting benefits, limiting r m reimburseme reimbursements. doctors are saying, i'm not in. i'm not going to do it. i won't provide medical services for that number. there is nothing president obama or ezekiel emmanuel or kathleen sebelius can do to force them back in. >> that's true. the other side is millions of americans will wake up on january 1 and find out they do have virtually the same policy they had from their employer and that they are still seeing their doctor. so, you know, there is a group this will impact -- >> wait, wait, joe. >> yes? >> good for them that the government has decided they get to keep what they had before, before the government decided who would be the winners and losers thanks to this law. this story from the beginning hasn't been about those people.
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the story now is about the people who made promises. the latest broken promise is you and your doctor, it may be over between you. they will pay a political price with these people. there will be others who didn't have health insurance and had no access to it that will gain that. there will be millions and millions of americans who will be able to keep the health care they had. i'm not saying that this is going to -- how it will play out. you're right. there are going to be people who say this is working for them. there will be a lot of people who say it isn't. in november of 2014 there will be accountability on both sides of that. >> let me ask you that. when the president said, okay, i feel bad people are losing their plans, you know, because they
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relied in part on what i said. that was about if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. >> right. >> this is a different issue. a lot of people can keep their plan, but they will lose their doctor. and they will view it as a compromise of care. they want this doctor. we have talked about how large hospitals are excluded from the plans. so if you have cancer you can't get to cedars sinai and so on. now we learn the doctor relationship you have had for 10, 20 years may be severed though uh you kept your plan. will there be an additional come to jesus moment? does the president need to let us know the shoes that will drop? >> those people will have a come to jesus moment with the democrats, if case you're talking about happens with enough people will happen in november of 2014. there will still be many others who had a pre-existing condition, who now can have health care. those people will like this law. i don't want to go into all the
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other things out there. but there will be a case now -- >> that's the thing, squjohn. >> -- all the way through. >> the thing is we knew about the benefits. that's an expected result of the law. we didn't know millions couldn't keep their plan, their doctor, prescription drug coverage. that was misrepresented, as it turns out. >> i think -- >> the question is how full-throated will the accountability be? we have seen one news conference and one interview. >> the accountability -- as you pointed out the accountability will be by changing the law to make it better or accountability at the ballot box which is how the democracy works. that's how it will play out in november of 2014. >> all right, joe. good to see you. >> good to see you, megyn. >> all right. also tonight a cable news host suggesting the word "obama care" is synonymous with one of the ugliest racial slurs out there.
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apparently if you say this word you are a racist. we'll look at that after the break.
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we have been following the recent debates about obama care and broken websites and obama care and broken promises. now a new controversy about whether the word "obama care" represents a racial slur. here is the argument from one cable news host this weekend.
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>> it's a word that's been with us for years. like it or not it's printed in the pages of american history. a word that was originally intended as a derogatory term meant to shame and divide and demean. it was conceived by wealthy white men who needed to put themselves above and apart from a black man who render him unequal and diminish his accomplishments. president obama has been labeled with this word by his opponents. y'all know the word i'm talking about. obama care. >> okay. matt bennett is a former clinton white house deputy assistant. katie pavloic is editor of town hall uh news. matt, as a forler clinton white house guy, it's meant to shame, divide, demean and conceived of by a group of wealthy white men.
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>> that's ridiculous. thank you for going to me first on this one. if this was an attempt at humor, it failed. it wasn't funny, wasn't appropriate. it was offensive. it misses the point. the president kind oy adopted the idea of the the term obama care in ways that he hasn't on other things. opponents come up with terms like the death tax for the estate tax, the sneering term the democratic party. we don't adopt those terms but the president adopted obama care because it stands for the signature initiative of the presidency. >> she suggests he has to. that that was used to render him unequal and diminish him but he had to submit to it and that's only the reason he took it on as his own. what was she talking about that it was conceived of by wealthy white men? >> i'm not sure. melissa harris is not only a tv
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host but a professor. if we are going to talk about obama care being a bad term can we talk about romney care, hillary care? for me it goes back -- >> also racist. >> it's all thrown in as racist because they don't want us to talk about it anymore. to get rid of the argument is g they have a lazy race argument to get off the, oh, i don't want to be called a racist campaign. >> does this work anymore? this person in particular sees racism everywhere. remember the movie "boomerang"? there was a joke. they would see the pool table and they were like, the black ball gets hit. it was a joke about how some people see racism everywhere. it diminishes claims of racism. >> exactly right. so everyone who criticizes obama care is a racist. doctors fleeing their practice because they can't afford what will happen, the franchise
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owners are saying, i can't afford this so i will eliminate employees. full time employees will be part-timers because i can't afford the health care under the affordable care act. and millions of americans that lost their policies are also racist. it's outrageous. there is a racist here. >> it is a short form way to refer to the law which was only recently short formed as the aca. we called it pupaca which nobody the wanted to say. let's go to florida state's controversy. james winston is a heisman trophy contender. he basically wasn't indicted. the prosecution decided not to go after him after he was accused of rape. the reporter got to ask him questions about the now resolved investigation. he answered a couple. then this happened. >> on thursday after the news
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was broken about the investigation he told you that he has ultimate trust in you and you need to be you and he'll take care of the rest. how much did that trust from your coach help you? >> i love him. that's how you do what we did today. we are trying to make history. we have to keep going. >> how come you decided not to talk during the process on thursday? >> thank you. >> congratulations. >> if i were representing him i would have told him to do the sa same thing. >> oh, my goodness. absolutely. keep your mouth shut. the prosecutors decided not to proceed with charges. it doesn't mean they can't re-open it. they could find out something if he said something. thank goodness for the one who pushed him away and said it's enough. >> people are looking at this as evidence of guilt. right? it's not to say, no, i don't want to talk to a reporter about this subject anymore. >> not at all.
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every time i represented athletes accused of similar crimes, don't say anything. especially to reporters. let the lawyers talk. don't speak to reporters about it. >> all right. there is more to the case than meet it is eye. yer geraldo was on "o"o'reilly" railing about the physical remarks on her. she went to the hospital. listen to gerald. >> she was fighting him off. winston's roommate came to the door, a guy named chris said, hey, man, cool it. he took her allegedly, winston took her into the bathroom where with he finished the act. >> his detractors claim this is a case of the big man on campus getting a pass. >> it's scary. if what geraldo is saying is true it's rape.
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if it is, this guy should be in jail and not playing in the national championship game. he was talking in the interview about keeping their eye on the ball, keep focused on the game. this is one of the most serious allegations of crime there is. if there is any truth to it, the school shouldn't let him play. >> let me move on to the last subject. the prosecutor said the evidence isn't there. they can't convict him beyond a reasonable doubt. that's it. there is an opinion piece posted in the war washington po that taux about how christmas cards, we are phoning it in. we go on shutterfly, pick a picture of the kids. these are the addresses. no personal note. no loving message. this is something my mother rips on me and doug every year. i say, we sent something. it's better than nothing. >> in the age of facebook and everyone knowing what each other is doing all the time, you don't have to send a letter telling
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everybody what you have been doing this year. who has time for it? getting the carded printed and in the mail is a big accomplishment. we deserve credit for trying. a for effort on christmas. >> i put you on the list. >> exactly. you made the list. >> matt, what do you do? >> i'm the world's worst holiday card person. >> see? >> i have great sympathy for this argument. i don't do anything. i just receive a lot of these. >> and throw them away probably. >> i'm ahead of him. mercedes, last word. >> i love those cards. it's a production. i have my dog in it, my kids, the background. it's big production. i love them. love sending and receiving them. >> if you don't write a note on the back, the point is we thought of you. that's it. fill in the planks. my mother rips on doug because he's a writer. still, no personalized message. thank you so much. >> good luck tonight. >> good luck. >> thank you.
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>> please welcome megyn kelly. ♪ [ applause ] >> nice to finally meet you. >> thank you very much. good to be here. >> it's your first time. tell us about yourself. >> simon wouldn't kiss me. he tried to say hello to me in the green room. i wouldn't let him. i have a bad cold and he's a germaphobe. i have my tea and my little tissue. >> okay. >> i think i'm good to go. >> all right. >> i work at the fox news channel. >> i had a lot of thoughts to share with you about this appearance. i will share them on twitter. follow me on twitter@megyn kelly and go to our facebook page.
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let me know what you think and i will let you know what i think right now.
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so tonight set your dvr for jay leno and "the tonight show." i will be there along with simon cowell.
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follow me @megyn kelly and on facebook at facebook.com/the kelly file. thanks for watching. i'm megyn kelly in los angeles. see you in new york tomorrow. the president never said you were going to have unlimited choice of any doctor. >> the leading architect of obama care admits if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor but be prepared to pay for it. >> if you want to pay more for an insurance company that covers your doctor you can do that. >> new reports suggest patient access to some of the leading hospitals will be off limits. >> conceived of by a group of wealthy white men who needed a way to put themselves above and apart from a black man. >> the language of the left hits an all-time low as another nbc news host likens the term obama care to the n-word.

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